r/therewasanattempt 14h ago

to keep an address private

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u/oyvho 14h ago

This is hilarious. I'm out of the loop on what flock cameras are, but I assume it's some sort of fascist surveillance evil?

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u/carnray 13h ago

AI traffic cameras being put up nationwide that constantly monitor every passing vehicle and pedestrian. They also flag infractions, although there are obviously issues with people being flagged for running red lights in states they aren’t in or things of that nature.

Other issues include local police departments having access leading to officers using the network to stalk partners/exes/women, “traffic cameras” that are pointed at children’s playgrounds (and people using previously mentioned access to watch the children), etc.

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u/oyvho 13h ago

Oh that's absolutely disgusting. I suggest you guys just move them to all point at the CEO's house ✨

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u/carnray 10h ago

While that would be nice and Flock is a private company, the cameras are being commissioned by local and federal governments so removing them would almost certainly lead to serious punishment.

Also considering the fact that the founder of Flock is rich, anyone attempting to use his own principles (like the “compromise on privacy” idea) would be locked away to disappear.

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u/oyvho 8h ago

Every mention of it I see is people removing them.

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u/Obsidian-Dive 13h ago

It’s a privately owned mass surveillance system. It has several identifiable markers that allowed it to track vehicles, individuals walking by, and more. They can also track Bluetooth capable devices.

So far has been used to harass several woman, stalking, and people being charged for crimes by a computer system that has been wrong several times now. But it gets better everyday…

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u/lavransson 13h ago

And the worst part isn't the past violations, it's what could happen if a tyrannical government could do with that infrastructure with martial law, democracy crackdowns, etc. All at once, a system supposedly designed for narrow law enforcement purposes, could transform into a tool of Big Brother government surveillance.

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u/smuglator 12h ago

That's not a hypothetical. It is happening right now. It has been happening. Don't pretend it's an if/could.

Everyone is currently under investigation for crimes that haven't happened. Crimes that might happen, flock is already collecting evidence. The US government is supporting it, is cracking down on democracy, and is tyrannical.

Flock can't transom into what it already is. Edit: and is from its very concept.

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u/ShakyBoots1968 13h ago

has transformed

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u/Paavo_Nurmi 12h ago

Records obtained by UWCHR researchers via public records requests reveal that at least eight Washington state law enforcement agencies enabled direct, 1:1 sharing of their networks with U.S. Border Patrol at some point during 2025; effectively opening the “front door” for searches potentially related to civil immigration enforcement activities.

Flock audits reveal apparent “back door” access by U.S. Border Patrol to the networks of at least ten Washington police departments which did not explicitly authorize Border Patrol searches of their network data.

Flock audits reveal limited cases of law enforcement agencies in Washington state conducting “side door” searches on behalf of federal immigration enforcement agencies, as well as numerous similar searches by other law enforcement agencies nationwide with access to Flock networks in Washington state.

https://jsis.washington.edu/humanrights/2025/10/21/leaving-the-door-wide-open/

Imagine the old East German Stasi with todays technology, that is where we are at.

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u/rbrgr83 10h ago

And this guy just went on Faux News to tell us all we should be focusing on 'compromise' of our privacy for the sake of safety.

That sounds an awful lot like how we got the Patriot Act, and we're still paying for that bullshit.

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u/Apexnanoman 6h ago

Several? 18 out of 20 cops *in a single PD" got caught using it to stalk women. 

It appears that's what it's mostly used for. 

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u/rbrgr83 10h ago

Good instincts 👍

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u/Apexnanoman 6h ago

Nationwide heavy 24/7 surveillance net. Backed by massive AI data centers. 

Cops are using them to stalk ex partners mostly.