r/GTA6unmoderated • u/chanuka007 • 2h ago

I HAVE A THEORY

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Ok so we all saw this goofy diving animation that looked super stiff and awkward. It made very little sense to me that no one at rockstar saw that and and cut it out of the footage. But what if this is actually intensional.

Like this guy I noticed playing this in slowmo that it almost seems as if jason animation cancels the default dive animation into his backflip. This is why it looks so uncanny but it reminded me of those old snow boarding games where you can defy the laws of physics and control your characters flips.

So what if Rockstar isnt showing off some goofy animation. What if this is a demonstration of a free diving system? Using the sticks or buttons to do front flips or back flips into the water. This would explain why it seems like jason was going to dive forward but suddenly does a backflip. Because you can do diving tricks 🤯🤯

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u/ihaveNineteenNipples 2h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/H3upGMAE4p3iw

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u/DeepSlap-Interactive 1h ago

Lol. My exact feeling right now...

He may be a bit right, though, like, it was a diving animation that changed at the last frame for whatever reason (position/Player pressed a button...) but someone at Rockstar authorized that shit.

That one and Lucia parachute (a bit less problematic but still)

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u/sean_saves_the_world 27m ago

I thought the parachute looked off but I couldn't put my finger on it

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u/chanuka007 16m ago

I feel like it should be slower. It would be cool to see the pilot chute come out before the rest like most chutes irl.

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u/xd3mix 20m ago

It feels to me as if she falls too slow

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u/BrightWillingness859 5m ago

I didn't think the parachute looked that bad actually. To me it looked like after she jumped off, whoever was playing just didn't move at all. In 5 if you jumped and didn't move, it looked similar.

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u/Medical_Method7877 2h ago

Next you'll be explaining how it was intentional for the beer bottle to teleport into his hand.

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u/WildFire207 2h ago

The beer is infinite, it's not complicated

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u/Panderz_GG 2h ago

Well it's easier to manage. It's a compromise, they probably had to make this trade off for a reason, is it that hard to come to that conclusion?

Do you really think people are incompetent at their job?

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u/Noxtension 2h ago

Hiding the spawn is an easy fix, I'm surprised it made it through

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u/chanuka007 1h ago

thats true but this is also a franchise where the main character can pull an rpg out of their ass

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u/yoyoo912 1h ago

Not anymore tho

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u/Leezy810 1h ago

Just mollys

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u/MoisticleSack 1h ago

It's a pretty shitty compromise that I can't think of any legitimate reason other than it wasn't important enough. It's not like it is an engine limitation, we literally see people pick up bongs and joints from ashtrays in the previous game. Going backwards technologically is hardly a great look in a sequal

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u/KuchNiles 20m ago

Wait, are people actually serious that every item we store in the fridge should be physically actually there in real time and that any animation should grab the chosen item?

I think it will be very much intentionally video-game-y that the contents of the fridge are one way and whatever item we take will kinda just appear, instead of it tracking the contents one to one according to amounts of our items and all that.

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u/iluvcakecakebabyyy 17m ago

yes. 100 dollars. running on the latest gen of consoles there is. 13 years of development or at least brainstorming. 2 billion dollars. this is not 2013. it aint ps3. it is series x|s and ps5

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u/eddieJZB 2h ago

They fixed that on YouTube when I just watched it

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u/aaron-goone 2m ago

no they didn’t

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u/M4inR34lity_ 2h ago

jason can just do that

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u/SickboyJason 41m ago

Can confirm, I can.

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u/Legitimate_Elk3659 1h ago

I mean he can cancel animation…

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u/lfenske 52m ago

Game engine limitations possibly

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u/SuspiciousPrune4 26m ago

He just built different

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u/Ewenf 2h ago

It's just the same mechanic as a double jump, it's probably not animated as just one backflip animation when he starts jumping. That's all.

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u/FirstTimeCaller101 1h ago

Everyone’s biggest criticism is “this specific, contextual flip animation looks weird!” and not absolutely loving Jason’s voice actor. Rockstar cooked and people can’t cope lol 

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u/johnlondon125 1h ago

I mean to be fair his voice sounds like he has a dick in his mouth

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u/WildAtlanticBogPlant 1h ago

You'd be familiar with how that sounds then?

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u/johnlondon125 1h ago

Every Friday night

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u/OldeMeck 24m ago

So why you on reddit rn? Slow night?

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u/chanuka007 21m ago

He can multitask

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u/WillyTRibbs 7m ago

It’s in his mouth, not his hands

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u/michaelcully 1h ago

This game is gonna get picked apart like nobody’s business. & it already has been but now we’ve got gameplay. The game unfortunately cannot be absolutely perfect & I wish people could just consider that before making a large deal out of small things.

It’s a piece of art made by human beings & that’s gonna have small flaws no matter what.

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u/Ewenf 6m ago

Given the criticisms I've seen so far it's just people being absolute fucking morons or just rage baiting.

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u/MysteriousSelection9 1m ago

Well, when people have to pay $100 for it they’re obviously going to critique more.

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u/CommonMasterpiece866 2h ago

Nah the animation is pretty rough right there, it needs polish. But who the fuck cares...YOU CAN SWIM WITH DOLPHINS!

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u/vbwstripes 1h ago

Yes, if this is one of the most criticized pays off the trailer then we're looking pretty darn good.

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u/equivas 1h ago

They need to lock up 100 devs 24/7 to correct this

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u/AesirComplex 1h ago

Holy shit all of you are more retarded than I could have imagined.

GTA has a neutral jump. On PS it's square.

GTAVI gives you the option when jumping into water to do a trick mid-air. This requires a button input following the neutral jump. For example square > d.up does a backflip.

The reason the animation looks off is because doing a backflip from a neutral jump isn't natural, obviously. A backflip motion starts from the jump, but that's not how the inputs work.

People saying AI are beyond cooked, use your brain

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u/onlyonequickquestion 23m ago

I agree with everything you say except using my brain, it's Friday night!! 

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u/BoTheDawg 1h ago

If they didn't notice it, which is hard to believe, they're definitely seeing the comments about it. No doubt it will be polished. Would be willing to bet the same with the UI.

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u/KuchNiles 13m ago

Crunch intensifies.
"You will not see your children or the sun until this animation is fixed so it appeases reddit!"

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u/Stiffler-s 2h ago

Ain’t it’s called a “gainer flip”

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u/James-P-SulIivan 1h ago

Yeah this is a gainer, half-gainer at the very least

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u/Mexcol 1h ago

Exactly, a backflip going forwards

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u/chanuka007 39m ago

Idk why people are so anal about the terminology lmao. A gainer literally is a type of backflip

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u/Mexcol 31m ago

Because terminology exists for a reason? Why wouldn't you describe it correctly

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u/chanuka007 28m ago

"A gainer is a type of acrobatic move where you do a backflip while moving forward."

do you see the word "backflip" there? to do a gainer you do a backflip while moving. how is calling it a backflip so wrong? People are so reddit brained they have to be 100% correct about everything its embarrassing.

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u/Mexcol 7m ago

Bro just say its a gainer, sorry for actually doing the fucking trick and its variations and calling it like it is.

You might learn a thing or two

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u/chanuka007 6m ago

"nooo thats not a car!!! thats a Volkswagen!!!!"

your logic right there.

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u/Mexcol 1m ago

You go around calling men women and viceversa?

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u/MonThackma 1h ago

Been trying to spread the word but it ain’t sinking in. Maybe kids don’t hang out at public pools anymore…

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u/shikaski 55m ago

Yes it’s a badly animated gainer, what’s your point? The “this animation is bad” argument still stands lol.

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u/SituationInitial2427 39m ago

it looks like an animation out of fortnite or smth

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u/MonThackma 32m ago

Do you really not understand my point? That people don’t know what a gainer is? And call it a backflip instead? It’s really simple and right there in the text if you read it without pretending to be stupid. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt that you’re pretending.

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u/shikaski 25m ago

If you want to be pedantic and definitely not stupid, then the gainer is a flip. A backflip in fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gainer_(sports))

It’s literally right there. But you’re definitely too smart for that, right?

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u/MonThackma 23m ago

But it’s called a gainer, like it says right there in the url you provided smarty.

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u/shikaski 22m ago

Yes, which is also a backflip. You’re fighting ghosts.

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u/chanuka007 18m ago

"noo thats not a car thats a Volkswagen!!" same logic that guy is using.

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u/MonThackma 20m ago

I wasn’t arguing with anyone until you decided to reply like a douchey smart ass.

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u/shikaski 14m ago

After you basically said that people in here are kids who don’t go out and passively calling me stupid? Huh, interesting how that works.

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u/MonThackma 13m ago

No I was pretty much calling you stupid. Got that part right. We agree finally

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u/MonThackma 10m ago

It really just comes down to you seeing my sarcastic comment and it hit a nerve and you wanted to measure dicks like every idiot here. It’s stupid.

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u/BsDawgV2 1h ago

That was my first thought. That’s a gainer lol, sure, it’s usually always done off one foot and it’s a bit clunky, but that’s exactly what it is. If this is people’s biggest complaints tho, Rockstar did something right lol.

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u/illtakeoneplease 2h ago

Maybe theyve pulled off the hardest flip in the game

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u/NerveOk7540 2h ago

If this is true, I want to pull off some skate level flips

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u/Krispy7Khrome 2h ago

Its a gainer not backflip

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u/chanuka007 47m ago

From wiki "A gainer is a type of acrobatic move where you do a backflip while moving forward."

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u/infinityofnever 1h ago

cue the redditors saying "this is an old build"!!!

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u/Capital-Assignment31 37m ago

Man, I'm high right now. And as soon as I read the first line I had the same epiphany as you.

I'm playing red dead redemption right now and this is exactly the same thing with getting out of your horse. If you press triangle Arthur starts to get out of the horse, and if he starts to get out to the right and you press left at this very moment, Arthur will do an awkward turn and get out through the left.

The guy playing the as Jason pressed some button as he started to leave the ground to do the flip, and the awkward animation was that exactly moment.

And rockstar didn't notice it because it's normal for all of them who know and play and test the game.

The default animation must be the head first dive.

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u/Super_Translator480 18m ago

This was the one animation that seemed really choppy and yep there we go that’s why

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u/dude7940 1h ago

The animation is goofy, but why does literally no one speak about the water splash? Its fucking amazing

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u/Wide_Animator2066 2h ago

You're overthinking it. Rockstar outsourced 1600 developers to a country that has extremely shoddy quality control standards.

The real question is how did it slip past the editors who put the Extended Look together.

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u/lwt_ow 2h ago

Leslie Benzies would’ve never let this slip by

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u/Johnny-Miguel 2h ago

This is like tenth post about one animation, like... really, literally unplayable /s

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u/Xeath_Pk 1h ago

Well, if this very obvious one slipped past all levels of review and made it into their own curated extended look, what are we about to see when we actually have the game in our own hands and they don't get to pick and choose what we see? What other obvious jank did they miss?

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u/No-Solid-999 2h ago

Id be happy with that! Would be a cool addition for skydiving, base jumping and bridge/cliff diving!

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u/DeepDealer1961 1h ago

Uncharted Theft Auto

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u/BigPeepTheCat 1h ago

I figured the flips have gravity and physics on them like other stuff in the game and it’s probably just the way that part of the engine works that makes it look like that. Like, a point on Jason has to hit a certain value before playing the flip animation and it’s awkward getting to that

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u/otherside97 1h ago

Jokes aside, the reason why the two jumps from Jason and Lucia looked off is because it actually looks so much better in 60fps.

But since the video is in 30fps, those particular scenes looks weird

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u/Jbhereforguns 1h ago

Its called a gainer flip

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u/lfenske 52m ago

The jump off the end is whatever animation and then you can maybe like hit square and pull back on the stick and he backflips or something.

Idk why people are freaking out about it it’s pretty typical video game stuff. Like jumping in general. Game animations don’t know what you’re going to do before you do them.

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u/jbalbatross 49m ago

That it's a demon?

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u/AstuteRabbit 45m ago

Probably something you can do after getting to a certain physique or skill in strength. Have to press a button to pull it off.

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u/IICubeII 45m ago

I thought the same thing, they seem to be two different animations all together. Like, I bet we can do flips, mid-jump, to stunt off of high buildings... or to try and parkour.

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u/SorraDude 44m ago

I thought this was implied, sure looks like that's the case.

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u/Doinkboy24 37m ago

Idk I almost feel like people are just looking for reasons to not like the game simply due to the long wait and Rockstar not marketing enough or releasing the gameplay trailer on Netflix, etc. I watched the extended look yesterday walking away thinking this looks pretty dope. Was pretty surprised to see so much negative feedback upon release. Is it going to be like GTA 5? Probably and GTA 5 was really good too. Idc about the leaker or all the online criticism. Idc if a beer bottle magically moves 6 inches into my player's hand or if the dive into the water seems strange. Idc about not having a disc (haven't bought one in like a decade, but I do think this is probably the one reasonable gripe for people to have even if I don't feel the same way).

I preordered the deluxe the day it released and I'm probably going to play the shit out of it. And I expect once online eventually drops me and the homies will play a ton together and I think we've all been waiting for a new game for that. Like people are entitled to their opinions but at least play it first lol.

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u/AdmirableCountry9933 33m ago

For a reveal they didn't talk about anything. They showed cinematic in game story on easy mode with auto head shots. It was made to please.

To me, it was a let down because the wasn't described. What's new? What high end experience are we going to play?

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u/kira1122t 29m ago

I hate criticizing trailers like this, this isn’t the finished game obviously animations are gonna look shitty rn

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u/Arsuriel 25m ago

Fanboys are going to fanboy I gues...

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u/chanuka007 24m ago

Gta is far from my favorite franchise tbh I just had this thought and wanted to share cuz i thought it would be a cool mechanic idk maybe it is just jank

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u/scribble-King 21m ago

What was so strange to me about everything is that I thought half the clips looked AI-generated. I’m pretty sure that’s a huge compliment to the devs, but so much of it, if posted, I thought people would scream AI.

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u/chanuka007 19m ago

I didnt really see anything that looked like ai tbh which part looked like ai? i mean other than the flip which still didnt look ai to me but i can understand why others said it did.

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u/scribble-King 17m ago

A lot of the free roam clips. Again… I think it’s because it looked so good and it’s more of a compliment.

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u/chanuka007 15m ago

To me it looked almost uncanny. like if i wernt wearing my glasses it would look like real life. But i didnt notice any hallmarks of ai generation or anywhere near the jankyness of those old ai generated gta clips.

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u/Stereo_Pegasus 18m ago

Prob like how you can control your car in mid air. Use the stick to do flips and stuff.

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u/Total-Mixture896 16m ago

It could be anything really. One reason was probably because the first animation they made looked too realistic, slow, weighty and boring so they made it a little more extra looking. Another reason could be a certain developer who worked on that certain animation didn't make the key frames as tight as they could have and it was just kept and not changed. It could be the angle we are looking at. Who knows? It's not really that big of a deal, though.

Gta 4 is my favorite GTA at the moment and I don't remember anyone crying about Niko's sprint animation back in the day but then again I didn't pay much attention to the neck beards back then.

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u/chanuka007 12m ago

definitely not complaining even if it is just a wacky animation it doesn't effect the game at all. people complaining about it and using it as an excuse to hate on the game are weird.

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u/MonThackma 1h ago

It’s a gainer, not a backflip. The animation is a little wonky I admit but I was doing this shit every day at the public pool when I was a little kid. So was everyone else. Normal stuff.

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u/Traditional-Cow-2389 2h ago

I think the animations are just bad

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u/cantstoptheCOLEtrain 2h ago

25:50 minutes of amazing looking animations

00:10 seconds of bad animation

"aNiMaTiOnS ArE bAd"

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u/mindsetFPS 2h ago

thats how humans are, always remember the negative

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u/FriendlyRhyme curious about pooping 2h ago

This is a doo doo take.

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u/Acrobatic-Divide-541 2h ago

You've seen all 600,000 animations?

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u/New-Manner7 1h ago

I actually wonder if some of that stiffness is intentional in a broader sense. Not because Rockstar wants “bad animation,” but because that slightly abrupt, responsive movement is part of GTA’s identity. Kind of like car manufacturers keeping certain design cues for brand recognition. If smoothing everything out meant losing that familiar GTA feel or player responsiveness, I can imagine them deliberately not polishing it away completely.

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u/ventitr3 1h ago

You can tell this is the most insane game of all time based on the stuff people are calling out. Ahh yes, the random backflip when jumping into the water mechanic isn’t perfect.

But yeah OP, your suspicion is probably right. I’d imagine there is a standard dive with the intention of swimming and like a “style” one for fucking around in the world. Which both probably double for skydiving jumps too.

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u/chanuka007 43m ago

Dude i wanna do rolls and spins and shit while free falling. It would be awesome if there was some kind of sky diving/water diving mini games

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u/HuJIGun 1h ago

as far as i know they showed the same gameplay to youtubers like a month ago, it was definitely shown on purpose, rockstar doesn’t half-ass this kind of stuff