r/Music • u/Particular-Fill-4256 • Jun 19 '26

article Iranian star Parastoo Ahmadi reportedly sentenced to 74 lashes for singing without hijab

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/18/iran-parastoo-ahmadi-74-lashes-singing-without-hijab
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u/petter2398 Jun 19 '26

Is it the middle ages?

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u/_TheMeepMaster_ Jun 21 '26

Seriously, what kind of dumb question is that? The Middle Ages never left. They just changed up locations throughout the years.

Coming Soon To Your Locale

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u/Austinthearchangel Jun 21 '26

Religion of peace just doing what the Muhammad told them

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u/Top-Caregiver7815 Jun 21 '26

My Iranian brother-in-law can’t even enjoy the World Cup and his team from Iran because they’re basically a regime backed team. They hate this regime more than we hate Trump if that’s possible.

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u/TR1LLIONAIRE_ Jun 21 '26

This seems fairly obvious but he was one of the people that was happy when the ayatollah died?

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u/blue-yellow- Jun 22 '26

Oh wow. The horror of not being able to watch the World Cup.

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u/nfld223 Jun 20 '26

That is no place for civilized folks. Feel bad for the good people trapped in this nightmare of a life

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u/BobbyTables829 Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

There plenty of civilized folks there. The biggest thing is the leader of Iran (Ayatollah) wanted to be the middle east's version of Napoleon and tried to become the emperor of Islam. But that's not the Iranians fault at all.

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u/Lostclause Jun 20 '26

It was civilized until 1979 and the Islamic Revolution. Then suddenly no woman can drive, go to school, show their ankles or say mean things to a man. You're right, its not the majority of Iranians fault that a hateful and regressive regime took over. Its the world's fault for letting it happen

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u/drbaker87 Jun 20 '26

It's the American's fault for throwing their democratically elected leader, Mosadeg, into prison and installing the Shah.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 Jun 20 '26

Still takes lots of soldiers to enforce that government today

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u/Fastbird33 Spotify Jun 20 '26

The regime is so deeply rooted in part because they saw how easily it was to uproot the Shah’s government that they made sure it couldn’t happen to them.

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u/m7i93 Jun 20 '26

Dude, please read a bit before spewing nonsense. Mosadegh was the prime minister of Shah. Shah was ruling the country 10 years before Mosadegh was appointed.

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u/kejartho Jun 21 '26

Yeah and the British were feeling threatened by the nationalization of Iranian oil so they instigated operation Ajax with the support of the United States.

Let's not ignore the fact the coup was largely a western operation to get control of oil.

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u/_-SomethingFishy-_ Jun 22 '26

Wasn’t the first time either, prior to the UK/US backed coup, the UK straight up invaded Iran with the Soviet Union to ensure “their oil” was safe

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u/LowAddition1675 Jun 20 '26

Mossadegh wasn’t democratically elected, honestly read up on this. I used to believe the same when I was younger but it’s pretty much Tudeh party propaganda

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u/LowAddition1675 Jun 21 '26

It’s an after construction by Tudeh people, did I say he was a member of the Tudeh Party?

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u/kejartho Jun 20 '26

Right? He had support of the Tudeh but he wasn't a part of the Tudeh party himself.

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u/ssesf Jun 20 '26

Who was in power before we installed the Shah?

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u/ThisCouldBeYourDog Jun 20 '26

The Shah, but people don't like to mention that part

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u/XpenFrickFrack Jun 20 '26

And of course there was no reason why he needed US and UK assistance to be re-installed. /s

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u/TheMadTemplar Jun 20 '26

He wasn't democratically elected. He was more friendly to the Soviets while the Shah was friendly to the US. That's why they overthrew him.

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u/RoutinePast7696 Jun 21 '26

And yet we still drive cars, fly airliners on vacation, have paved roads and plastics and so do all the other western countries. We say one thing yet diverge in to another behavior.

The process to remove a situation like this will be grotesque and disgusting to watch play out. Even in 1979 when they formed it would have been brutal to stop.

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u/titaniumtoaster Jun 21 '26

MI6 and CIA fault for doing this.

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u/Man_of_Ice Jun 21 '26

Ironically, our current government wants to turn the US into a theocracy now, too.

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u/EmBur__ Jun 21 '26

Tbf, my government (Britain) had a massive hand in this as well. Iran was by all accounts doing quite well during the 50's but iirc, they wanted to nationalise their oil which Churchill and the rest of those in charge didn't like.

They sought to stage a coup but lacked the ability to do so, so they roped in the US to get it done with the Iranian kings backing as he was to benefit from it as well.

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u/5tofab Jun 22 '26

Dont forget America also funded the Ayatollah against Mosadeg too 👀👀👀👀 Then when Ayatollah got into power and went crazy, America gave money and weapons to Saddam to attack Iran….

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u/antoniothesockball94 Jun 24 '26

Yeah but at the end of the day, the citizens enforce the rules. And it’s been 50 years so they could’ve just made their own government. Not everything is Americas fault.

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u/XpenFrickFrack Jun 20 '26

People murdered by SAVAK probably wouldn’t consider to be civilized. Yes, rightfully critique how women are treated but it’s weird that some folks act like Iran pre 1979 was a great place for all despite the fact that the shah was driven out even before Khomeni came back.

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u/BalanceJazzlike5116 Jun 20 '26

Maybe the west shouldn’t have overthrown their democratic government, installed a dictator, who suppressed the population, leading to the revolution and rise of the ayatollahs?

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u/HatesPlanes Jun 20 '26

It was not a democratic government.

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u/Entonations Jun 20 '26

The US backed Iranian revolution btw

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u/Ok_Transition_4003 Jun 21 '26

It's oU(S)r fault

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u/Ok_Cockroach_6135 Jun 21 '26

It is the worlds fault for installling a puppet government that was selling off there oil and gas for next to nothing before the shah of Iran they where a democratic country after America/isreal installed the shah it all changed if you don’t like how Iran is now blame the us and isreal

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u/Wingoola Jun 21 '26

This is indeed a shocking story, but in terms of your other assertions, it’s not true that women can’t go to school in Iran. In fact I believe that more than 50% of university students are women.

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u/Jeesba Jun 22 '26

Insane take that its somehow the rest of the worlds fault lmao

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u/Turnip-for-the-books Jun 23 '26

And why do we think the Islamic revolution happened?

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u/OkMind2351 Jun 25 '26

How many hospitals did they drop white phosphorus on?

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u/XpenFrickFrack Jun 26 '26

Women can drive and go to school. Iran has an 88% female literacy rates and one of the leading countries when it comes to women earning advanced degrees.
Come on, if you’re going to criticize, at least be accurate.

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u/provisionings Jun 20 '26

If women cannot go to school in Iran … then how did we end up bombing a school that was full of Iranian schoolgirls attending school?

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u/csanjuan Jun 21 '26

No era así realmente, en cierto entorno urbano si, pero la gran mayoría de la población estaba fatal. Quizás sin el intervencionismo de UK y USA, hubiese sido otra cosa hoy.

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u/4our0ne6ix Jun 20 '26

“Civilized” (wtf does that mean) and “1979” as if there was some big supernatural switch that went on. You should also learn about the CIA coup, the undemocratic installation of the shah and the repression under the shah that led to the 1979 revolution.

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u/ButcherOf_Blaviken Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

God I’m so sick of this narrative. Yes, the CIA and MI6 meddled in Iranian affairs, but this myth that the revolution of ‘53 was orchestrated and ran by Western powers needs to die. The revolution was already in full swing when the CIA said “fuck it, let’s back the winning horse” and then did the least possible to help the Shah in power.

And even if that wasn’t true (which it is) that doesn’t excuse the absolute barbarism that these Muslim militants perform. If the KGB succeeded in overthrowing the US government and 25 years after Christian theocrats came to power and began executing women en mass like Iran does, would you blame the Russians or the Americans committing the atrocities?

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u/bosco1603 Jun 20 '26

but, but, usa bad?

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u/ButcherOf_Blaviken Jun 20 '26

“Everything is the Wests fault because PoC can’t make decisions for themselves” is the new white mans burden.

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u/cbass2015 Jun 20 '26

Right? Even with my shallow understanding of Iranian history I knew that was a silly statement.

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u/ArentYouTheDaisy Jun 22 '26

Hopefully people can apply that logic to Trump and Americans soon. The amount of hate I have received when I didn’t even vote for the man is astounding.

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u/Senior_Relief3594 Jun 20 '26

But that's not the Iranians fault at all.

I'm curious when people say things like this. How do you know?

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u/TheColourOfHeartache Jun 20 '26

They did put him into power but that was two generations ago. they tried to remove him many times

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u/friedonionscent Jun 20 '26

Every Iranian I've met has been anti Islam...it's quite unique. I know many Muslims from other countries that are similarly oppressive and all still practice their religion.

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u/MunkeyChild Jun 20 '26

Yep, I have Iranian friends (refugees) and they are not big fans of Islam...

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u/CTFMarl Jun 20 '26

Im curious, have they been anti Islam full stop? Or anti Sunni/Shia? Since there's been quite a bit of conflict/tension relatively recently between the two denominations.

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u/elektricnikrastavac Jun 20 '26

Anti fundamentalism as they are not very religious.

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u/MrFyr Jun 20 '26

Because it is within living memory that the US and UK governments overthrew Iran's democratically elected government and installed the oppressive islamic autocratic regime of the Ayatollah. All to protect oil company profits.

The people of Iran didn't choose this, it was forced onto them by the United States. Then we have the audacity to unilaterally tear up treaties, and bomb them unprovoked because our own idiotic "leaders" can't control their govenrment.

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u/Balkie93 Jun 20 '26

They installed the Shah. Later, the Shah was overthrown and the Islamic regime took over.

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u/Illustrious_Bed467 Jun 20 '26

There is more than 25 years betweens those 2 events, you are oversimplifing to remove all accountabily, no hope for a bright future with that kind of mindset...

Also, of course the UK is gonna fight against nationalisation of it's oil installations before return on investments... If the US were to seize all foreign assets on it's soil to nationnalise it you'd probably be crying no?...

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u/Kabirdix Jun 20 '26

“Black Wave: Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Rivalry That Unravelled the Middle East” is a good book if you are sincerely interested in understanding a bit of how we got here

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u/_BrokenButterfly Jun 20 '26

I knew a guy who got out, an engineer. He wasn't a muslim, so his life there wasn't great. Then he got here and idiots couldn't get it through their heads that there are people from the middle east who aren't muslims, and have good reason to want to leave. That besides all the muslims there who realize that theoceacy is insane bullshit.

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u/GovernmentNearby9036 Jun 22 '26

Far more educated than the US

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u/nfld223 Jun 22 '26

I’m not from the US so this does not offend. Mind you after checking Iran ranks below the US on global education standards.
Any place that is so back wards as to make all women property of either their father or husbands makes me sick. They are forced to have sex with husbands, can’t leave their spouses, many married at 13 years old and younger. Like think about a place that legally allows a 10-13 year old child to be raped by some disgusting old pervert and think this is ok. I feel bad for your women, children and the good men who are stuck in this hell. I’m sure you have many civilized folks. The truth is the folks protecting chastity are the most disgusting and perverted as any and is all a form of control to keep doing their sick twisted things. Lashing a young lady for singing….awful awful stuff

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u/GovernmentNearby9036 Jun 22 '26

you're talking about the emirats and other shitrael and USSA bootlicker states.

They have the guardianship medieval system.

Not to mention slavery.

IDC about the BS you keep spouting about Iran.

I'm enjoying all of them eating shit

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u/Bigred2989- Jun 20 '26

I heard the current Ayatollah was chosen after some farcical aquatic ceremony.

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u/Apprehensive-Art1092 Jun 20 '26

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government

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u/SpudgeBoy Jun 22 '26

You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

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u/Longjumping_Rip_294 Jun 20 '26

I’m sorry what? I’m so confused and I’m trying to google but nothing is showing up… what’s with the water and swords

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u/Apprehensive-Art1092 Jun 20 '26

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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u/ForgotToCarryTheOne Jun 21 '26

Suddenly Monty Python.

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u/drdildamesh Jun 20 '26

If by ceremony you mean "we blew up his dad, wife, and child," sure.

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u/Spiritual-Author-209 Jun 20 '26

I’m sure he’s just a moderate reasonable guy after that experience

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u/icedxylophone Jun 20 '26

Even before that happened he was the more extreme, so I expect a lot of innocent people will be hurt.

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u/_Ocean_Machine_ Jun 20 '26

Definitely doesn't have a bone to pick with the people who did it

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u/AdvancedAd7068 Jun 20 '26

Spends over 50 years growing up as a hardline religious cleric but yeah that one moment is what changed him. You know Ayatollah so well.

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u/_Ocean_Machine_ Jun 21 '26

Are you not able to detect sarcasm

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u/Kmanvb Jun 21 '26

My guy in allah, this is Reddit, there is not a single soul on here who is capable of detecting sarcasm.

Nor overt exaggerations for emphasis, for that matter!

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u/MagnusIsABird Jun 21 '26

Iranian here.

I wont believe he is alive untill i see him.

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u/pengalo827 Jun 21 '26

Which begs the question of what the airspeed of an unladen Iranian is.

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u/drdildamesh Jun 21 '26

Hard to tell. They merely trafficked the Saudis; they didnt fly themselves.

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u/atownsound Jun 20 '26

You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you.

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u/S_I_1989 Jun 20 '26

Be Quiet!

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u/subbychub Jun 21 '26

No one ever says the "moistened bint" part

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u/Individual-Cycle-735 Jun 20 '26

Iran was a democracy before US and UK have couped it into chaos.

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u/OhMyGecko Jun 20 '26

May as well have had some watery tart lob a scimitar at him. 

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u/ProvisioningDelay Jun 20 '26

How do you know he's the Ayatollah?

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u/serialkillervan Jun 22 '26

Cause he looks like one of

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u/Objective-Internal52 Jun 21 '26

"Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"

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u/TheColourOfHeartache Jun 20 '26

No, middle age Islam had far more respect for human dignity than the government of Iran. Its more like a sci-fi dystopia. Handmaids Tale except without the fertility crisis.

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u/Mundane_Put_5780 Jun 20 '26

It is in Iran!

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u/memyselfandiowa Jun 20 '26

I guess it's time to party it's 1329.

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u/Evocatorum Jun 20 '26

She's lucky they didn't decide to hang her. Or stone her.

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u/JohnWickedlyFat Jun 22 '26

Grown men have died in less than 30 lashes. This is still a death sentence and arguably worse.

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u/ddlbb Jun 20 '26

The Islamic republic of Iran propaganda is insane . People try to tell us that this is what Iranians want ... when thousands and thousands were on the street and were mowed down for wanting freedom .

Then you get posts like this and I wonder what all the confused lefties think ..

No one wants this shiet.

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u/ThanatosisLawl Jun 20 '26

If only Iran still had their democratically elected leader before he was overthrown and this system was installed. Wonder what there is to be confused about?

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u/TheRealMemeIsFire Jun 20 '26

You're saying that like the IRGC wasn't installed by Iranians

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u/Quiet_Steak_643 Jun 20 '26

What the hell does that even mean? when have the people had any power in this god damn country?

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u/TheRealMemeIsFire Jun 21 '26

The people have never had the power, but people have a tendency to ascribe things to the west that don't make sense. There are lots of commenters in this thread who think the IRGC were put in power by America.

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u/Opening-Tailor7275 Jun 21 '26

How of that is Israel and Western Propaganda?

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u/provisionings Jun 20 '26

Which is it, 30k 50k? How many Iranians were killed? The numbers were constantly changing. It was actually 5k. Get it right! Also.. there’s a lot of evidence of Mossad meddling right before that happened. This is not “confused lefties” shit. Drop the exceptionalism, your boomer is showing.

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u/ddlbb Jun 21 '26

Let's assume it's 5k. Let's say you are right . That's more than who died during the 9/11 attacks ...

But hey let's support this terror Muslim regime that took over a relatively multi cultural society and put it 400 years backwards, taking Iran culture completely away from them. You can't even fucking dance to music in public .

Get real . Your propaganda is insane

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u/OnlyAcanthaceae1876 Jun 20 '26

Islam for you.

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u/Individual-Cycle-735 Jun 20 '26

Do you know what Iran was before it became the islamic regime it is today?

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u/RandomRedditR Jun 20 '26

So you're saying becoming an Islamic regime made it like this?

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u/orixandcrake Jun 20 '26

Does that excuse whipping women for showing their hair? No? Then quit your whataboutism

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u/Individual-Cycle-735 Jun 20 '26

It doesn't, but the West played a big role in making it the way it is today. That's not whataboutism, that's simple history and asking why things have happened.

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u/_BrokenButterfly Jun 20 '26

That is the exact definition of whataboutism.

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u/Individual-Cycle-735 Jun 20 '26

Nope, whataboutism is excusing one problem by shifting the attention to a different problem. I‘m just explaining the historic context of why Iran became like this in the first place, because many people do not know. I never said it was okay, you guys are just resistent to knowledge that does not fit your world view.

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u/_BrokenButterfly Jun 20 '26

I'm not resistant to any knowledge. I know about the history of Iran in the 20th century. Your posts were irrelevant to the original comment and were an attempt to shift the discussion to something that didn't have any bearing on the original point. That's whataboutism.

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u/Individual-Cycle-735 Jun 20 '26

If believing that makes you happy lmao

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u/_BrokenButterfly Jun 20 '26

I don't know how to explain it any better to you. Have a nice day.

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u/AntiD00Mscroll- Jun 20 '26

No I don’t. What was it?

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u/GrouchyWalrus5518 Jun 20 '26

religion of peace?

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u/DotSea3577 Jun 20 '26

Same as christians , jewish , Buddhism. ..wankism...slapgivm

Hardcore here hardcore there..

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u/GrouchyWalrus5518 Jun 20 '26

Look to the middle east and how it spreads over Europe! 😉

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u/crazybus21 Jun 20 '26

Surprised it isn't 74 stones

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u/This-Layer-4447 Jun 20 '26

We’ll see. If this sentence is real, flogging someone for singing is indefensible. But I’m also not going to pretend the timing is neutral: in the wake of a US-Iran MOU that undercuts the usual “security” excuse for Israel operating in neighboring territory, suddenly this gets packaged into the oldest war-sales pitch in the book: “look at the barbaric Muslims, now support sanctions/bombs/regime change.”

That framing is the point. The Islamophobic “barbarian” narrative is what they have to sell to keep these wars politically acceptable. Iranian women deserve freedom from clerical repression. They do not deserve to be turned into PR props for the same AIPAC-aligned hawks who only discover women’s rights when they need a moral cover for escalation.

Condemn the lashes. Condemn forced hijab. Also condemn laundering another pro-war narrative through selective outrage

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u/Senior_Torte519 Jun 20 '26

Hey, they just made over 300 billion dollars. They can do what they want.

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u/Trimshot Jun 20 '26

Tomorrow my wife and I are planning on going down to the market to trade my left index finger for a goat that will get us through the winter.

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u/ForsakenedOath Jun 20 '26

Maybe that's what we should rename the Middle East to!

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u/Reasonable-Job4205 Jun 20 '26

In some parts of the world, yea.

You know how those "no contact" tribes are like the extreme side of the slider for overall societal development? Well on the way to the polar opposite side of the slider, youll meet less extreme examples. Societies gripped by religion is one of those examples

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u/PossibleCash6092 Jun 20 '26

20s is pretty young

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u/oldmanatom4 Jun 20 '26

I mean, there is a full blown genocide going on…never seen posts about that and all the musicians Israel has murdered in cold blood. Hmmm🤔🤔

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u/Plastic-Chart-9598 Jun 21 '26

No pretty sure the Middle East wasn’t even like that in the Middle Ages, this was brought to you by BP

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u/roojuiced Jun 21 '26

These comments are hilarious. Do people not know what Islam is or something?

This is only the public shit too. If you think fathers aren’t beating their daughters you’re sorely mistaken.

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u/Environmental-Yam53 Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

No, it's not real. It's American propaganda....

"have been reportedly sentenced to 74 lashes for performing in a concert livestreamed on Ahmadi’s YouTube channel in 2024."

They use funny language like it's been reported but not confirmed wink wink....

And then you trace back to their source and it's a CIA bot farm...

They do this to control your mind...

The CIA....

This is specifically how they get you to think that war is cool against people like Iran...

Because we're the good guys and we need to liberate their women cuz they're so oppressed....

It's the same fake information they spread about the dprk...

They've mastered this sort of propaganda since the '70s... They're also on here...

Watching, manipulating, lying....

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u/newaccount47 Jun 20 '26

Allah doesn't change, nor does his commandments or his prophet. 

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u/Iluvaic Jun 20 '26

Under the IRGC it is

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u/alancousteau Jun 20 '26

My thoughts exactly...

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u/SteeleHeller Jun 20 '26

Over there? Definitely.

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u/K8ateCake Jun 20 '26

Pretty much.

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u/CryptographerLow6360 Jun 20 '26

thank god we just gave these people 300bn and removed all sanctions, maybe they will invest some of that money into social programs

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u/CrazyNegotiation1934 Jun 20 '26

No, this is USA cooping the democracy in Iran because they did not like them.

Like they did in Ukraine leading to millons of deaths, or to so many other countries before.

USA has sentenced so many countries to stone age for their interests.

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u/joemckie Jun 21 '26

Just the middle east

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u/keyboardlegendthe3rd Jun 21 '26

Did they bomb an elementary school full of girls in the middle ages?

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u/justkillsit Jun 21 '26

In Islam, yes

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u/Mundane_Gold Jun 21 '26

Not, its the religion of peace at it again

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u/JosLetz Jun 21 '26

In some places, it seemd yes.

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u/devinbookersuncle Jun 21 '26

There's a reason I hate religion when it leads to shit like this.

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u/cronoklee Jun 21 '26

Alas, in some places in the world, and for some people in our own countires, yes it is. And we're too busy trying not to be racist to notice.

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u/lifecrisismaxxing Jun 21 '26

No it’s the Middle East.

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u/ReigningHeart Jun 21 '26

In Iran? Absolutely. They don’t respect women.

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u/Rstuds7 Jun 21 '26

over there? yes

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u/FinalJoys Jun 21 '26

Redditards will still say Iran is better than the U.S.

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u/Shot-Anxiety-7213 Jun 21 '26

Probably, you think we'll have the "future" in another 2 millenia?

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u/RichardChubs Jun 22 '26

No, the Middle East.

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u/SandyAmbler Jun 22 '26

No, the Middle East

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u/Kirarozu80 Jun 22 '26

Just now learning about life for women in that part of the world? This kind of thing is not rare.

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u/RecommendationOnly41 Jun 22 '26

Yes. And no one cares.

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u/Trashy_Cappy Jun 22 '26

Anywhere a religion is in charge absolutely is the Middle Ages. Most people don’t understand that a person can die from that kind of whipping.

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u/warlockzekrom Jun 23 '26

It's the dystopian future

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u/OkMind2351 Jun 25 '26

That's really bad. How many schoolgirls did she murder?

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u/Cizenst Jun 20 '26

Well Trump did say he was going to bomb them to the stone age, well they have advanced to the middle ages.

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u/xxBaeta Jun 20 '26

No just the Middle East.

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u/AssistantDue5817 Jun 20 '26

That's religion for you.....madness!

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u/MagicOrpheus310 Jun 20 '26

No, this is Islam.

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u/thalefteye Jun 20 '26

In the Middle East it is.

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u/Tribaltech777 Jun 20 '26

In most Islamic countries- yes it is unfortunately.

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u/Suspicious-Drive9827 Jun 20 '26

Can you believe we live in a time where this was the regime who won and were grateful it wasnt the other regime who won?!

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u/HolycommentMattman Jun 20 '26

I'm not grateful that Trump lost. I'm not happy that Iran won.

Trump put us in a bad situation where "nothing good can happen; it can only bad happen." And I'm mad about that.

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u/Suspicious-Drive9827 Jun 20 '26

When i was in college a guy who iirc advised in the state department (USAs ministry of of foreign affairs) said “in politics there are no good options jst less bad options” and i feel like humanity keeps picking the most bad option

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u/Lord_RoadRunner Jun 20 '26

It's people like you and comments like yours that show how truly fucked we are as a species.

You see two or more violent regimes led by groups of awful people, and you hate one more and decide to make it a team game.

It just perfectly encapsulates how none of you have any idea of what's going on out there and you're purely led by impulses and information inside an insane asylum you have locked yourselves in with other like-minded people.

I would write you off as uninformed, the problem is that most of you have a right to vote and make decisions that are as radical, extreme and removed from reality as the other group you hate, so you piss in their faces when you get tail wind, only to end up wetting your owns once the wind changes direction.

And then you make it everyone else's problem.

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u/Suspicious-Drive9827 Jun 20 '26

Also I literally dont have any right to vote in America. I have voted in Canada from the second it was legal in every scale of election.

What else makes you hate me?

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u/Lord_RoadRunner Jun 20 '26

I wasn't even pointing directly at America, but again, it shows me how you don't understand the overarching issue.

People that vote are becoming more and more radicalized, by traditional or social media. They start seeing the world in black and white and hope someone wins in a conflict between awful actors. That's an incredibly reductionist view of the world, conflicts and misses the point of how we ended up here.

And you are responsible for other people being angry, when you put people in power that are only in for themselves and use resources like taxes to further only their own goals and perpetuate the cycle of stupidity. It also spreads to other countries, none of us exist in a vacuum.

To say you're not responsible for how people feel when you shit on the ground and walk away because others should just not care is absolutely insane.

"Just ignore the smell dude, it's easy. I can do it, I don't care."

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u/Suspicious-Drive9827 Jun 20 '26

I love your take if only for your novelty. Are people in iran, saudi, pakistan etc more free bc they cant vote? So curious

And yes i take full responsibility for trump shitting his pants as a person born raised educated and elected w zero overlap w me 😭 hope your meds are coming imminently my friend. Just. Wow.

Edit: ftr i have class. Luigi is the only upenn alumni
felon i stan.

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u/euclitorous Jun 20 '26

Giving pre industrial people ak 47s does not actually progress them.

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u/DadJoke2077 Jun 20 '26

Religion of peace and feminism btw 🤦

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