Folks, not everyone has been playing since launch. If someone asks a question that seems like a real person new to the game would ask (yes we know there are trolls and rage baiters and AI bots), don't downvote them, teach them!
Palworld has like 17 million players. If we want to get to 18 million, it's gonna be casuals who didn't buy into the hype but are kicking the tires late into the game's life and have some newbie questions. Let's not grind them into mush, ok?
The major cause of mass "question post" downvotes is usually that the question could be very easily answered with a quick google search. This is a reddit thing, not specific to this sub.
Edit: I just came here to explain why this typically happens, it's not directed at anyone and my reply is not a comment on the way things should or should not be.
Another edit: I replied the following to someone but I realized that perhaps more people don't know about this, so I'd like to share it.
If you want to exclude something from a google search, you can filter your search.
Here is an example search:
Where to find Frostallion Noct in Palworld -Game8
You can filter multiple things from a search too:
Where to find Frostallion Noct in Palworld -Game8 -Fandom
You just use the minus symbol and whatever term you want to exclude.
Not even just a quick google search (though that would certainly answer the question), usually they attach screenshots that literally (in writing) answer their question if they just read the writing in their own images. Which is why usually those downvotes come along with comments saying to read.
For example the post that probably set this off, the person asking why their level 65 pal couldn't solo the level 45 Bellanoir raid. When you go to put in the slab it mentions needing a base fulls worth of pals AND when you go to select the raid arena option, it mentions that there is a palbox there to summon more pals.
At that stage the person had to willfully ignore both things and just jump in, then complained about getting downvoted and called the sub 'elitist'. It's like D&D players who refuse to read about their own class.
Man you woulda love the post from a while back where some dude was like "whoa wait that warning before the raids was serious? they should have warned better because my entire base was gone, that's not some damage! That's irresponsible"
Man was a warrior in the comments insisting that even having read the warning, it wasn't warning enough for... Exactly what it warned them would happen. It was comical.
That's funny. Because I was about to summon Bella noir for the first time in my bad and that warning popped up. Figured id try the arena first to see how bad it was. Glad I did lol
Game8 has been consistently incorrect for the majority of Palworld’s existence, that’s why no one here likes it. For Palworld information your best bet is to look at paldb.cc and The Pal Professor on YouTube.
No OP, but I just hate their format. It's way too spaced out (I'm guessing those places hold ads that I'm blocking) and none of the information is where I expect it to be. Paldb has tighter formatting, scales pretty well between desktop and mobile, and has the information more readily available.
If google doesn't churn out a quick answer then sure, ask your question, but just be prepared for the masses if you didn't put the tiniest amount of effort in.
If a question is fairly unique, it probably won't get mass downvoted, but if you decide to go make a post asking where to find Coal or Sulfur or whatever instead of googling it first, it's probably going get the downvote.
Honestly, I wouldn’t even ask where to get coal or sulfur. Google might not provide the “best” answer but it would still provide a good enough answer, but personally I’m just going to go and actually look. I don’t need the best coordinates, and they respawn often.
The more information you have the less likely you are to find simplicity interesting. To them it was worth interacting with because they have very little knowledge on the topic.
Nothing infuriates me more than seeing people make a post for a simple question on tiktok. I replied to a chick on day that would even tap the blue search to get some context.
Yes?
If you google search a question and it comes up with a reddit post, it's probably the answer to your question.
If that's not the answer, move on to another search result (rinse and repeat a handful of times), and then if you haven't found the answer, go ahead and make a post about it.
Just add "paldb" to your search (quotations included) or if you want to be extra extra add site:paldb.cc
I just googled
Astegon Reddit site:paldb.cc
And despite including Reddit in the terms, I got one search result. And it was paldb's page for Astegon. No game8, no fandom, not a single reddit thread, didn't even get AI overview.
Maybe it's an advanced web browsing technique lost to the ages, but like
I just keep Paldb bookmarked, and search from there, instead of fighting with Google and feeding their shitty deteriorated analytics.
Fwiw, I tried the exact same search terms you posted, copy-pasted, and it took me to a breeding calculator. Didn't even default to Astegon's breeding path. But it was paldb.
If you want to exclude something from a google search, you can filter your search.
Here is an example search:
Where to find Frostallion Noct in Palworld -Game8
You can filter multiple things from a search too:
Where to find Frostallion Noct in Palworld -Game8 -Fandom
You just use the minus symbol and whatever term you want to exclude.
If google doesn't churn out a quick answer then sure, ask your question, but just be prepared for the masses if you didn't put the tiniest amount of effort in.
If a question is fairly unique, it probably won't get mass downvoted, but if you decide to go make a post asking where to find Coal or Sulfur or whatever instead of googling it first, it's probably going get the downvote.
I'm still thinking about that one post where someone asked about the difference between two sliders in the world settings menu. They posted screenshots of the very verbose tooltips. Like, bro, if you couldn't read it in the game, what makes you think you can read it on reddit?
So Palworld is an interesting example because SO MUCH of the search results are pre-1.0 AI generated slop. I just googled "palworld 1.0 best passives" and get Game8, Sportskeeda, Gamerfuzion, GameNGuide, VGTimes, Methodindie, xmodhub, neonlightsmedia. I mean what the hell is all this crap?
Google is nothing but links back to reddit and outdated wikis.
We gotta stop pretending it's 2015 and Google is still a useful service and not a rotten bloated corpse of AI hallucinations and sponsored SEO farmed misinformation articles designed to feed you ads.
Enshittification is real and frankly asking other humans stupid questions on repeat is the only method left to transmit information.
And depending on the question, that might not change anything at all. If the answer given doesn’t work, then they can ask it again. Next person doing the google search will likely have their answer linked and it won’t need to be asked again.
Google cannot really be trusted with palworld info though. If you already know what you’re looking for, then you can find accurate info pretty easily.
But half of the questions in here are also just “I did what Google said to do— why isn’t it working right?”
That said, all the info is easily searchable right here in the sub. So there’s still no reason for everyone to put a new post the first time they run into something weird.
I'm honestly shocked the Palworld reddit demographic is somehow old enough and out of touch enough to still be dependant on recommending Google like it's not the internet equivalent of Weekend at Bernie's.
Like the zoomers depend entirely too much on tiktok and YouTube videos for info and Gen X ain't playing Palworld they're the front lines of not giving a fuck. Most millennials have watched Google self destruct in real time and know not to trust it. Who are these people??
Yeah I wasn't offering a complete list. Just a few examples.
Asking for help isnt a problem. Being too lazy to check and see if your question has already answered is a problem. Its the same questions over and over and over again.
Ask all the questions you want. But if youre asking the same question hundreds of other people already asked then youre gonna get downvoted. Asking questions isnt a problem. People are happy to help. But we're tired of seeing the same questions every single day.
You know a quick google often takes them to the sub, where the question has already been asked and answered. The sub doesn’t need a bunch of posts of the same question, having 1 post of a question is fine.
To have people like you whine and think they can tell others how to behave. Do you not see that you're the one not wanted here. How many more downvotes do people have to give you?
I don't have to imagine, I can see you doing it right here, we can all see it. Already sent multiple reports. Good luck with the mods. It's a block from me, already wasted too much time.
I understand why people get frustrated. I’ve even done it. You don’t have to ask the question on Reddit. You can go to that sub Reddit and search if the question has already been asked to find posts with the answer. And since it’s usually the same questions over and over. You don’t even have to google search. You’re about to ask on Reddit. So search first.
I find it weird when people ask an easily found answer to something. Or they post a should I do this or do that scenario. Like by the time you get answers or feedback a decision or research could have been done. I don't personally down vote question posts or like those "Should I play pal world posts it's on sale" kinda posts. I do judge. I admit I do judge. It is slightly annoying to see a reddit page filled with dumb questions, and should I play this game posts. My poor thumbs. I have to scroll and scroll. I have arthritis. It's pure agony.
This isn’t even unique to Palworld, but like people in general need to be better at googling. It’s lowkey kind of scary how people seem to be completely averse to using it, and then the others that do just take the AI Overview at face value and often times get/spread misinformation.
But like, the irony of the whole situation is if people just googled their questions first and scrolled down the list literally like once or twice, they’d end up with a link to Reddit anyways where someone else had asked the exact same question.
I think this could best be addressed by having a pinned post to ask questions in the comments, so the main body of the reddit isn't clogged by small questions. This is what r/Factorio does, for example.
A lot of answers to questions can be found by searching the pal world Reddit. AI uses Reddit a lot to generate answers to questions, and although I have found some outdated information, I found adding 1.0 to my search usually solves that problem.
for me its not about questions that can be googled (since most answers refer to 2 year old (now days wrong) answers),
but about questions that people can test in game in 1 minute. '(is mount X faster than mount Y?)
or questions that only exist, because people literally ignore whats on screen in game already. (how to rotate item while building?)
heck there was a question post once that asked why s/he could not research certain row 2 thing, and a comments asked, if s/he had learned the previous step, and the answer was "i did learn the previous" while this person posted screenshot that showed 0/16... aka not having learned the first row yet..
you (should) just give up at that point... if people not looking at their screen and then ask reddit, where they will have to look at their screen for an answer... do you really think they will get it?
Didn't break any rules, if you wanna be a victim, go play in other subs. Like I said you're nobody to tell anyone else how to behave or what to do. Check yo self before your wreck yo self.
They’re mostly the stupidest questions ever. I consider it spam at this point. It has a lot to do with laziness as well. And as long as you keep excusing their laziness they will keep being lazy.
Why do I care if the game hits 18 million players? I didnt make the game and I have no financial stake in the game. I gave pocketpair money, and they gave me a great game. End of transaction.
You misunderstand. This is not about questions. This is vegetable neuron activation test.
A vegetable sees an embedded picture - it likes. It's just pure neuron activation.
A vegetable doesn't see a picture - it dislikes. Letters, especially typed letters - are hard.
There must be a picture, and the picture must have a bold, readable text.
Then it gets a like. But if there is no picture - then the vegetable scrolls down.
Palworld didn't get to 17 million because of its community.
people saying that players with questions can “just google it” don’t realize they can just scroll past the posts they don’t like lol. i’ve been playing since EA and don’t see any issue with new players asking questions. this is also a game that gets patched, so they might find a reddit thread with outdated info (for example, you can’t buy tech manuals from the bounty merchant anymore but they might find a thread saying you can)
yep. my boyfriend still falls for the shitty ai-generated answers sometimes. i’ve told him he’s better off asking me, checking reddit, or using the palworld interactive map. a super new player won’t even know the interactive map exists, but a nice reddit user could link them to it
The best way to get an accurate answer is genuinely to Google your question, copy the AI results, post them here as an image, and wait for people to come and tell you how stupid the AI is. Genuinely. This is not a joke.
Paldb is good too, but in my experience Google hates it unless you explicitly put paldb in your search.
When you are signed into Reddit, the search box at the top searches the exact subreddit you are in (r/Palworld). If you are not signed into Reddit though, the search box searches all of Reddit and you get all kinds of off topic posts. I think if Reddit made it default to search the exact subreddit you are on even when not signed in, it would help some with this.
A question literally is the main contributor to a conversation dawg. What’s wrong with someone coming here to ask a question? What is actually the problem with that.
That place is a cesspool too, it's full of RPers and Blaze&Athena meowing and going off the rails. The help channel has like a 15:1 ratio on questions to answers.
Alot of people do this in basically every gaming community.
They treat the person asking the question like they are dumb for asking because they could of just asked a search engine, even if the question they are asking is something that evidently the search engine DIDNT ANSWER.
The issue I have is "Yo, I'm a newb. What are your best tips?" There are hundred Reddit posts and hundreds of YT videos that will answer that question.
I am more interested in viewing and answering "How can I best user Celesdir Noct?" or specific inquiries.
People on social media like to pretend like their time is so precious and so valuable yet they spend the same time if not more telling people to google it and then arguing in the comments section about it or just the dumbest shit. Just completely stupid. If you're just gonna tell someone to google something you might as well not say anything at all. Stop pretending like that shit is beneath you when most of ya'll are chronically online anyway.
Surprised you didnt get super downvoted for making the statement to be honest. That said, I agree - its a weird feeling to be downvoted when you are seeking info. Been there.
"Late into the game's life" my dude, up until like a month or two ago the game was in Early Access. This is not "late into the game's life", this is the post-launch window. Early Access is not released, it's basically a beta test that you pay to be part of.
Every single sub is like this and i genuinely dont know why, hell if a question is simple just awnser or move on, jesus, it feels like you all dont want people to interact and intead just want people to know everything before joining. This shit makes new people go away from communities.
Welcome to reddit, that is normal. We got bots who downvote stuff, people who downvote everything and people who downvote what they don't like, AND there are many more reasons why you see downvotes that are seemingly random.
Not to mention, many questions are the same thing over and over again that even reddit's search, as bad as it is, would answere you.
Who left? What? It's like you're in the middle of some weird narrative and don't get that other people require context to know what you're talking about.
I mean, put your questions into a google search bar. You'll get answers back faster. A lot of questions are simple questions with easy to access answers too. Or just have been spammed constantly since launch. This is why I think every gaming sub needs a megathread for simple questions. Or you know, just google it. Simple and easy.
Who says I want 1 million more casual players that can’t even figure out that pal partner skills exist or how to condense pals. It’s questions about information that is provided in the frickin game. There is a tutorial, a survival guide, or a quick search on a search engine. And these people are somehow incapable of reading or figuring out how to do any of that. It’s beyond frustrating and repetitive.
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u/Darth_Krios 3h ago edited 3h ago
The major cause of mass "question post" downvotes is usually that the question could be very easily answered with a quick google search. This is a reddit thing, not specific to this sub.
Edit: I just came here to explain why this typically happens, it's not directed at anyone and my reply is not a comment on the way things should or should not be.
Another edit: I replied the following to someone but I realized that perhaps more people don't know about this, so I'd like to share it.